. >> rose: it's said nicole kidman called you up and said she had to have this part. >> yes, only if she did her own makeup. and she put on 15 pounds. >> rose: so you told her put on 15 pounds and put on your own makeup? >> she had to to understand this woman and to sit with people -- women that had men in prison. so she sat with a group of women that wrote men in prison, one of which was my sister and she sat with the these women and --. >> rose: to understand what they're about? >> yeah, their psyche. what makes them tick. >> rose: what's the story? >> the story is of a murder investigation that takes place in florida and a coming of age kid. the kid is zac efron. 20. coming of age. sort of like "precious" really. except the backdrop is a murder investigation as opposed to a kid with h.i.v. and overweight and illiterate being --. >> rose: but you went through several actors who were going to play and didn't play for one reason or the other, including bradley cooper and others. >> uh-huh. >> rose: but then you worked it out, you got mat mcconaughey. >> what happens is, because we do